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Post by linda on Mar 30, 2014 14:54:15 GMT -5
Thank you terefere: The YouTube interview was really interesting.
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Post by dancing girl on May 29, 2014 5:02:07 GMT -5
Hello, I am a student from China and is worrying about the graduation thesis now. My topic is about Julian Barnes,but lacks of resources. There're papers I need. 1.Kermode, Frank, ‘Obsessed with Obsession’, New York Review of Books, 32:7 (25 April 1985); 2.Updike, John,‘A Pair of Parrots’, New Yorker, 61 (22 July 1985) My Email: wenlunfanyi@163.com I really need your help and thanks very much for your help!
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Post by manosd on Jun 13, 2014 2:18:20 GMT -5
As a French reader of Julian Barnes's Sense of an Ending (in English), I am very touched to read the reference to Léo Ferré's song: "avec le temps va tout s'en va" which summurizes this magnificent novel so well! All I have read on this forum is very interesting since it shows how the author has managed to put us in a state of confusion/unrest. What a conjurer! It might be interesting to know that the French title is: Une fille, qui danse- because to me and to my friend who read the book in French it seems to be central in the understanding of the plot. Indeed we think that Tony doesn't get it except at this crucial moment and actually spoils everything when he meets Veronica again. To me this novel is a masterpiece because of the story because of the writing style the philosophy on the question of time. Well you can put this book just beside Proust's books in your "quest of lost time" ! Où es tu?Comment ça va?Alison called yesterday asking about you, Fransesca and Jeanne. Do you still like snow? Why don’t you share with the rest of us the ‘Story of your Life’? Maybe Jay, that old bastard, could write a line or two about you. Do you remember him? He is still fantasying of ‘becoming’ Scott and belonging somewhere... BULLOCKS!!! He has to find his soul first, but like always is looking in the wrong places:galas,dinner parties.. He is within and without. Simultaneously enchanted and repelled by the inexhaustible variety of life.And Alison? You know Alison. She is still a jalapeno pepper waiting for some strange burrito. In the meantime,I have lost count with how many burritos she has been in the past, including mine, but we all failed to pass her extravagant tastes…We should arrange to meet one day and play “ TRUTH or DARE”. Well, ‘the truth is that our worst fears,like our greatest hopes, are not outside our powers, and we can come in the end to triumph over the former and to achieve the latter’, as Proust wrote in the ‘Search of Lost Time’…..
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Post by ADAM EVANS on Aug 13, 2014 2:48:45 GMT -5
I would like to congratulate Mr. Julian Barnes for the adaptation of his winning novel “the Sense of an Ending” into Japanese by the Master of Magic Realism Mr. Maruki Hurakami. The translated version of the Japanese adaptation has the title “ COLORLESS TSUKURU TAZAKI and his Years of Pilgrimage.”
The Japanese equivalent of Tony Webster and his clique is the 36 year old railroad engineer Tsukuru Tazaki with his clique - we have 5 friends in both cases. Tsukuru’s name and life is colourless. “Habit,in fact, was what propelled his life forward. Though, Tsukuru lacked a striking character or any qualities that created him stand out, and regardless of usually aiming for what was AVERAGE, there was( or seemed to be) anything about him that wasn’t exactly typical, one thing that set him apart.”
While in the beginning Murakami follows the original story of the ‘Sense of an Ending’, later on he makes a twist. It’s neither a letter nor money left to our protagonist , by the deceased Sarah, that cause him to dig the past, but Murakami places another Sara, alive this time, who questions Tsukuru about his past and pushes him to open the “drawers inside him, drawers with numerous doubts and questions tucked away inside”. According to Sara, the Japanese sensible one, “you can hide memories, suppress them, but you can’t erase the history that produced them”. In BOTH novels it’s a suicide, occurred in the past, the reason our protagonist is considered or considers himself or discovers that he is partly responsible for; the difference ,however, between Barnes and Murakami is that Tony tries through Veronica to learn the truth or at least part of the truth, while Tsukuru is on a quest to find each of his 3 remaining friends and talk with them about what happened 16 years earlier… I have to admit that Murakami and his EDITOR definitely know how to fill more pages and please the READERS for buying a BOOK with more than 150 pages?!
Tsukuru is very good at playing Tony Webster and Murakami is very good at COPYING Barnes’s main skeleton and adding a few of the Magic Realism’s characteristics, like metaphors, music and sex,very weird sex,like dream rape or subconscious bisexuality. But, Murakami uses swallow and irritating aphorisms, like “the truth sometimes reminds me of a city buried in sand”, while Barnes’s language is accurate, precise ,to the point. The mood in both stories is melancholic; we have philosophical discussions, some insightful thoughts on the nature of vulnerability, guilt and grief, we have mystery and many questions which are left unanswered…
Did Tony Webster come to any kind of closure? YES and NO is the ANSWER: “There is accumulation. There is responsibility. And beyond these, there is unrest. There is GREAT UNREST.”
Does Tsukuru come to any kind of closure? YES and NO is the ANSWER: “Our lives are like a complicated musical score…” The ‘YEARS OF PILGRIMAGE’ is nothing more than “the Sense of Norwegian Wood” and Murakami is nothing more than a Kafkaesque hikikomori . Haruki Murakami is definitely www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q06V5Xg5rL0, but his new novel is the traditional FISH and CHIPS recipe cooked by a Japanese chef served in an American jazz club while the jukebox plays Lizt’s “Le mal du pays”. Did I enjoy it? “ I felt my chest tighten with a disconsolate, stifling feeling as if…. I’d swallowed a hard lump of stodge!!” If “the TRUTH, for Murakami, reminds him of a city buried in sand”, then the TRUTH ,for me, is a fact. It EXISTS. Only falsehood has to be invented. And there is no doubt that Barnes’s FICTION makes the better job of the TRUTH.
PS: But you must not forget that you could still play with the stickers. I wonder what KAFKA would thought of them??!!
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Post by ADAM EVANS on Sept 26, 2014 1:56:12 GMT -5
Note that BOTH 'Flaubert's Parrot' and 'Kafka on the Shore' have been reviewed by JOHN UPDIKE. But one should be very CAREFUL when reading reviews of novelists about other novelists...
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Post by ADAM EVANS on Oct 31, 2014 3:22:45 GMT -5
Stupidly English
by Michael Wood A very interesting REVIEW www.lrb.co.uk/v33/n18/michael-wood/stupidly-english. Interesting not only for the context and Mr. Wood's critical approach,but also because Mr. Michael Wood has some kind of relationship with Mrs. GABY WOOD?! Mr.Michael Wood :en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Wood_(academic)Mrs. GABY WOOD:|" To write about Lara's interest in 18th-century French androids and other mechanical dolls, Oates consulted ''Edison's Eve: A Magical History of the Quest for Mechanical Life,'' which was written by Gaby Wood, whose father is Michael Wood, the Charles Straut Class of 1923 Professor of English." YOU DO KNOW GABY WOOD? SHE WAS ONE OF THE JUDGES IN THE MAN BOOKER PRIZE OF 2011 and a client of the UNITED AGENTS(the Agency that BARNES' late wife formed with others in 2008 and therefore Barnes' AGENCY) unitedagents.co.uk/gaby-wood.And after the end of the farce she wrote http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/booker-prize/8833974/Man-Booker-Prize-Julian-Barnes-and-our-sense-of-a-happy-ending.html
“Early in my career...I had to choose between an honest arrogance and a hypercritical humility... I deliberately choose an honest arrogance, and I've never been sorry.”
Frank Lloyd Wright Quess what Mrs GABY WOOD has chosen?
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Post by Angela on Dec 30, 2014 4:03:58 GMT -5
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Post by kenbarb on Jan 21, 2015 12:35:09 GMT -5
I finished this book last night and I must say as I was reading it I kept wondering why it won the Man Booker Prize. Finished it and immediately began re-reading sections, usually a good sign, only one other book has provoked this for me. ( In the Skin of the Lion by Micheal Ondaatje my number one favorite). For me this book is all about point of view, and we how each interpret (and misinterpret) the language actions and behaviors of others. We realize that just about every interpretation that Tony makes is highly questionable and even at the end, when he appears to finally " get it' there are so many unanswered questions and possibilities, that we realize Tony has once again likely got it all wrong. I think Mr Barnes' initial name for this book was Unrest; so apt. Bravo Mr Barnes
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Post by terefere on Apr 19, 2015 10:32:31 GMT -5
Only now I watched the movie Lunchbox by Ritresh Batra and I'm also sure that his version of The Sense of an Ending is sure to be an important event. I am very curious his interpretation of the story and its characters, especially Veronica - is the only character who "is not grown up", untypical it is the power of her emotion - after years usually subside.
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Post by Barbken on Apr 21, 2015 2:04:37 GMT -5
I finished this book last night and I must say as I was reading it I kept wondering why it won the Man Booker Prize. Finished it and immediately began re-reading sections, usually a good sign, only one other book has provoked this for me. ( In the Skin of the Lion by Micheal Ondaatje my number one favorite). For me this book is all about point of view, and we how each interpret (and misinterpret) the language actions and behaviors of others. We realize that just about every interpretation that Tony makes is highly questionable and even at the end, when he appears to finally " get it' there are so many unanswered questions and possibilities, that we realize Tony has once again likely got it all wrong. I think Mr Barnes' initial name for this book was Unrest; so apt. Bravo Mr Barnes I left you alone for a couple of months and this is what you have been up to? You know how stressed I felt with your heart condition. How depressed I became after your CABG. Where did I go? To improve my balance. To enhance my self-confidence and improve OUR IMAGE as a couple. For whom did I get the Brazilian Butt Lift? The Breast Lift? The Neck Lift? The Face Lift? If not for you, my Zookeeper ?!! And you are starting a conversation in this English Discussion Forum? What do you know or understand about English people? Julian Barnes, an Englishman,won the Man Booker Prize for the readable (?!) ”Sense of an Ending”(2011),while Michael Ondaatje,a Canadian,for the poetic tour de force of his “English Patient”,who proves that he is not English after all. “The Sense of an Ending” is a story told by another Englishman, Tony Webster; it's his version of the story; the half story.....Tony Webster wants to feel safe(with his conscience!!).Tony Webster does not mind appearing weak,stupid or a coward. What Tony Webster minds is showing who he really is: a MISOGYNIST. Or is he a semi-misogynist? Well,only English people like using these characterizations (semi-misogynist or repressed misogynist), For the rest of the word,semi or not,repressed or not,is simply a MISOGYNIST. I hope that NICK PAYNE will manage to put forward the female voices of the novel who are either ignored or misrepresented;otherwise,Nick Payne and BBC, Veronica's and Margaret's friends would write their own unique 'kind of ending' www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwccJXklW_UKenbarb,why are you looking at these girls,when you have a whole work of art standing in front of you? Dr. Handler told me that after my ear lift,me and the rest of his best creations,Tutti and Todd, Shelly and Kelly,Francie and Jazzie to name a few ,will be exposed first in the MoMMu and then who knows? One day you might see me in the Egyptian Museum or even the British one if an English Lord steals me...
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Post by camino on Jul 14, 2016 7:42:22 GMT -5
Perhaps somebody can help me interpreting a gesture Veronica's mother makes when the protagonist leaves after the weekend. She stands in front of the house and moves her hand a certain way. He notices at the time and remembers it. What does it mean?
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Post by Amruta kulkarni on Aug 19, 2016 7:14:24 GMT -5
The book ends giving a sense that Adrian committed suicide when he could no longer carry the guilt of getting Veronica’s mother pregnant. That’s the whole point maybe.
But here is a different way to the “sense of an ending”. Maybe the child that Veronica’s mother bore was not Adrian’s but instead was Tony’s! And Tony had no memory of it. And Adrian shared intimate moments with Veronica’s mother and concluded the child was his. He found himself guilty and screwing his relation with Veronica and ended up killing himself. This makes sense when Veronica so strongly says to Tony “you never got it and you never will”. It justifies Veronica’s anger for Tony as he not only fooled with her mother but also was the reason why she lost Adrian.
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