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Post by sharplady on May 4, 2013 11:09:38 GMT -5
Now I fully accept not many children listen to Radio 4 but how come the watershed for TV is not enforced on radio? I was listening to a play based on a book by Julian Barnes.
My next question is - how come when women write about male characters being assaulted they are dismissed as 'man haters'. But when a respected literary man portrays a rape it's put on Radio 4 in the afternoon?
The whole play concerned a woman who was used as an object of revenge by two men. She was portrayed as having no choices at all - the men forced their views and emotions on her throughout the narrative, culminating in the grand finale of the rape. Which was clearly the revenge of one male character on the other - despoiling his 'property'. The woman became pregnant afterwards in the ultimate alpha-male battle for supremacy. Oh, and she decided to keep the baby, in spite of her husband clearly knowing it can't be his.
There were no negative consequences for the rapist - indeed he was portrayed as the hero, having got revenge on the people who betrayed him.
I've been a long-time fan of JB but I will NEVER read any of his books in future.
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Post by OH NO on May 4, 2013 12:06:41 GMT -5
I think it's a misunderstanding. In my opinion, Julian Barnes is the embodiment of Goethe's thoughts: Das Ewig-Weibliche / zieht uns hínan.
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Post by dawnoshiro on May 5, 2013 4:42:19 GMT -5
Since you only got to listen to the play, you might think about reading the two books it was based on before writing off Julian Barnes. It could simply be a poor adaptation or one that cut out some of the nuance of the original.
I know the stage adaptation of "Arthur and George" cut out a lot of the material that I thought was important and emphasized things that were not the focus of the novel. Even the "Metroland" film made changes that were not in the original novel.
I haven't read "Talking it Over" or "Love, Etc." yet so I can't comment on the content itself, but in general, books tend to be superior to their adaptations. Also, it's hard to blame Julian Barnes if someone else adapted his book into a radio play and then changed the emphasis or details of the original.
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Post by manosd on Apr 11, 2014 2:57:59 GMT -5
Because I don't see my friend replying ,The sharplady doesn't need to read the books(Talking it Over and Love etc.)Here is a review www.theguardian.com/books/2000/aug/05/fiction.julianbarnesThe real story behind the books could leave you very happy and satisfied. In reality his wife PAT,OLIVIA/OLIVER had left him, JULIAN/GILLIAN for another WOMAN,the very real JEANNETE/STUART.JEANNETE wrote a book or several books about it and gave interviews etc.about frustrated married women looking for new adventures... cww.oxfordjournals.org/content/2/1/70.shortbut it was BARNES who got his wife back....Because he was THE MAN!!!!And he also wrote about it(TALKING IT OVER) about a love triangle but not the right triangle. Barnes is the son of 2 TEACHERS and an OXFORD graduate!!!! However,the book was a great success ,so that a Frnch movie came along where the trio are renamed as Jules(it's the equivalent of Julian in French) and Jim meet for a millennial reunion in Normandy and where there's a Gallic hint of triangulated desire - the men hold hands behind the woman's back. If then Barnes had written the truth the film would have been a HUGE SUCCESS(see this year's 'ADELE').... But it was not enough!!! In 2000 to celebrate his old cooger's 60th birthday wrote the sequel and you listened the adaptation.... HOW MANY TIMES HAS JULIAN BARNES BEEN TALKING IT OVER? So if you are disturbed by the rape aren't you disturbed about the TRUE LIVES OF THE RESPECTED LITERARY MEN AND THEIR WIVES???
BUT THEY HAVE EARNED MILLIONS SELLING THEIR FUCKS,SO THEY DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT YOUR OR MINE OPINION!!!!!! AND EXPECT US TO FEEL SYMPATHETIC ABOUT THEM! I WONDER WHAT HIS FATHER THOUGHT,IF HE WAS ALIVE ABOUT HIS SON.... |
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Post by JEANNE MOREAU on Feb 16, 2015 7:23:32 GMT -5
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So if you are disturbed by the rape aren't you disturbed about the TRUE LIVES OF THE RESPECTED LITERARY MEN AND THEIR WIVES???